Comments on: Muse http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/ Making it up as I go along. Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Stephen http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/comment-page-1/#comment-319 Stephen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/#comment-319 Wow. I always thought I was the only one who wore earplugs to live shows. Or I used to, anyway. These days I simply avoid loud bands; they don't do anything for me any more. Wow. I always thought I was the only one who wore earplugs to live shows. Or I used to, anyway. These days I simply avoid loud bands; they don't do anything for me any more.

]]> By: Jeff http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/comment-page-1/#comment-320 Jeff Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/#comment-320 Excuse me while I geek audio for a moment. Just to point out, the mains at the show weren't two speakers, but rather, two gigantic arrays of speakers. There were four rows of speakers in each main, and each row looked like it had two 12 in. speakers and 1 ˜8 in. speaker. So, in total, 16 12 in. speakers and 8 8 in. speakers. For reference, my guitar amp has one 12 in. speaker—when I turn the power amp up to 3 (out of 10), the sound output is well over 85dB (ear damagingly loud) probably in the 90-100dB range. When pushed, my amp can get a lot louder. The 12s are good for the mid and low range, and the 8s perform better at higher frequency—they were probably using them as oversized tweeters. In a room no bigger than half a football field, they had a sound system worthy of Husky Stadium, and they had it turned up. The last thing that needs to be accounted for is the fact that a stadium is open air, and Neumo's is a closed space. This simple fact means you don't lose sound to the outside as readily. I'm surprised anyone in that room made it through the show without earplugs. The sound system was awe inspiring; dick enhancing, even (well, there goes my spam rating...), but way more than needed. <em>Shrug</em> I guess you need that to get through to the people who've already destroyed their hearing ;), and the rest of us can just bring earplugs. (BTW, Laura, your spell checker doesn't understand dB, earplugs or tweeter.) Jeff Excuse me while I geek audio for a moment.

Just to point out, the mains at the show weren't two speakers, but rather, two gigantic arrays of speakers. There were four rows of speakers in each main, and each row looked like it had two 12 in. speakers and 1 ˜8 in. speaker. So, in total, 16 12 in. speakers and 8 8 in. speakers. For reference, my guitar amp has one 12 in. speaker—when I turn the power amp up to 3 (out of 10), the sound output is well over 85dB (ear damagingly loud) probably in the 90-100dB range. When pushed, my amp can get a lot louder. The 12s are good for the mid and low range, and the 8s perform better at higher frequency—they were probably using them as oversized tweeters. In a room no bigger than half a football field, they had a sound system worthy of Husky Stadium, and they had it turned up. The last thing that needs to be accounted for is the fact that a stadium is open air, and Neumo's is a closed space. This simple fact means you don't lose sound to the outside as readily. I'm surprised anyone in that room made it through the show without earplugs.

The sound system was awe inspiring; dick enhancing, even (well, there goes my spam rating...), but way more than needed. Shrug I guess you need that to get through to the people who've already destroyed their hearing ;), and the rest of us can just bring earplugs.

(BTW, Laura, your spell checker doesn't understand dB, earplugs or tweeter.)

Jeff

]]> By: Jeff http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/comment-page-1/#comment-321 Jeff Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://blog.niceperson.org/2004/05/10/muse/#comment-321 Nope. We're in a minority, but you aren't (weren't?) the only one. Enough people care about their hearing that you can often get earplugs at a show—you just have to ask for them because of the idiots who don't care about their hearing. There seems to be a mentality of, <q>If the band is bad enough that you want to wear earplugs, then why are you here?</q>, which, as I'm sure everyone here agrees, is stupid, because, as Laura said, I can hear better at practice with the plugs in. I've also found that in small venues with bad acoustics, I can hear the band much better, because all the noise from reflection and the amps just being up way too loud gets cut out, and I can hear the song. Jeff Nope. We're in a minority, but you aren't (weren't?) the only one. Enough people care about their hearing that you can often get earplugs at a show—you just have to ask for them because of the idiots who don't care about their hearing. There seems to be a mentality of, If the band is bad enough that you want to wear earplugs, then why are you here?, which, as I'm sure everyone here agrees, is stupid, because, as Laura said, I can hear better at practice with the plugs in. I've also found that in small venues with bad acoustics, I can hear the band much better, because all the noise from reflection and the amps just being up way too loud gets cut out, and I can hear the song.

Jeff

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